tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15525301.post115385089369868519..comments2023-09-21T04:34:55.058-07:00Comments on Susanne's Blog: That shuir last night ruled!SusQHBhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17084374785596604807noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15525301.post-60489453347011807682007-07-26T18:01:00.000-07:002007-07-26T18:01:00.000-07:00Reb Moshe writes in IGROS MOSHE part 4 tsuva 87 th...Reb Moshe writes in IGROS MOSHE part 4 tsuva 87 that his ruling is not cler cut because the acronim disage with himAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15525301.post-1154016755968675472006-07-27T09:12:00.000-07:002006-07-27T09:12:00.000-07:00Non-WH:I don't think that's the case. The YU Rabb...Non-WH:<BR/><BR/>I don't think that's the case. The YU Rabbi who I believe you are in reference to specifically refuses to issue ANY piskei halakha for the Breuer's-side demographic, b/c it is not his "turf."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15525301.post-1153945244684011522006-07-26T13:20:00.000-07:002006-07-26T13:20:00.000-07:00Rabbi YG Bechhofer is indeed a cousin of the Bechh...Rabbi YG Bechhofer is indeed a cousin of the Bechhofer family of WH. I would imagine that his father is from WH. His wife was my principal in my Senior year of high school. For more info: <BR/>http://rygb.blogspot.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15525301.post-1153942134740055142006-07-26T12:28:00.000-07:002006-07-26T12:28:00.000-07:00I thought the fight in WH was more between Mount S...I thought the fight in WH was more between Mount Sinai and certain Rabbis at YU. Everyone assumed Breuer's would be against the eruv and it was the comments from YU that caused the controversy.<BR/><BR/>Please correct me if I'm wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15525301.post-1153940189700210052006-07-26T11:56:00.000-07:002006-07-26T11:56:00.000-07:00Now, wouldn't that be apropos. :)Now, wouldn't that be apropos. :)SusQHBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17084374785596604807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15525301.post-1153940097735378582006-07-26T11:54:00.000-07:002006-07-26T11:54:00.000-07:00For those interested, R' Yosef G. Bechoffer (sp?) ...For those interested, R' Yosef G. Bechoffer (sp?) has a very good book on the halokhos of eiruvin. <BR/><BR/>It explains the halokhos quite clearly, and I found it very useful as a newcommer to the topic.<BR/><BR/>Not sure if he is related to the Bechoffers (again, sp?) of WH, a longstanding family in KAJ.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15525301.post-1153939987217633782006-07-26T11:53:00.000-07:002006-07-26T11:53:00.000-07:00I believe that it is 600,000/day. I _think_ that ...I believe that it is 600,000/day. <BR/><BR/>I _think_ that the 600,000 people includes (and I am not sure if this is one shittah or a halakha that applies universally) traffic on streets that feed into the the main street. My Rabbi in Brooklyn (who grew up in WH and learned in the Breuer's beis medresh, so bear that in mind) said that one issue of concern with the WH eiruv is that some of the streets w/in the eiruv feed into Broadway. I'm not sure if this is a universal stance, though.<BR/><BR/>Also, I do not know if foot traffic (as compared to cars) counts towards the 600,000, or if it draws the entire street into the purview of the eiruv. This may or may not be pertinent to the WH eiruv, as the eiruv covers at least one part of the western sidewalk on Broadway.<BR/><BR/>I think that in Flatbush people have more or less settled into their rote of eiruv-dom, which is why nobody really cares, whereas in WH the issue is fresher. This should all quiet down in six months or so, when the novelty wears off and we get another bug fiasco or sheitel controversy. (It is plenty creepy to walk around knowing that there is a little Beda"tz hekhsher sewn into your sheitel.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15525301.post-1153937651225470982006-07-26T11:14:00.000-07:002006-07-26T11:14:00.000-07:00Well said Meredith. R' Wosner actually mentioned t...Well said Meredith. R' Wosner actually mentioned the issue with Ocean Pkwy. One of the requirements is something to the effect that it cannot cross an area that is passed by more than 600,000 people. I honestly don't know if this number is for a day or year, but he said, even an extremely busy street like Ocean Pkwy at its busiest has only been found to have around 300,000 crossing it. I would have thought that there were many more than that but apparently they had like dudes sitting there counting people or something. As someone before mentioned, if you have a controversial eruv, Rav Wosner may have been involved. I'm sure Flatbush had dealt with similar problems as the Heights in their past.SusQHBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17084374785596604807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15525301.post-1153936907234185952006-07-26T11:01:00.000-07:002006-07-26T11:01:00.000-07:00I moved to Flatbush a month and a half ago, a neig...I moved to Flatbush a month and a half ago, a neighborhood _notorious_ for eiruv fights. I'm told that the main problem people have with the Flatbush eiruv is that it crosses Ocean Parkway, which may or may not be reshus ha'rabbim -- basically, the same issue people have with Manhattan eiruvin crossing or feeding into Broadway.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, at the shul I go to, most congregants rely on the eiruv and carry, even though the Rabbi does not hold of the eiruv. And you know what? Everyone gets along just fine.<BR/><BR/>As you rightly note, people on both sides of the WH eiruv need to take a step back and relax. There is never going to be a community consensus on this. KAJ is not going to convince Mt. Sinai not to use the eiruv, and Mt. Sinai is not going to convince KAJ to use the eiruv. The people on both sides who are having a hard time accepting this (to the exclusion of the people, who I prefer to think are the majority, that already are bearing this in mind) need to remember that there are sheviim ponim le'Torah, seventy faces to the Torah, and move on. Community achdus doesn't mean that we all agree on everything. Community achdus means that we respect peoples rights to their shitos, even if we disagree with them, and move on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com